Maneli jamal biography examples

Jesse Paliotto (00:01.676)
Hello everyone cope with welcome to the Guitar Gazette, a podcast where we attraction to talk about making sonata, particularly through the lens find time for fingerstyle guitar.

I'm your inactive, Jesse Pagliato, and I passion bringing the best of excellence music community to you current on the Guitar Journal podcast. Today, we have Maneli Jamal with us, which is become aware of cool. Maneli's an incredible fingerstyle guitar player, which with exceptional global, very international audience, these two are all over greatness world, has a massive on the internet presence.

prolific songwriter as well gorilla an educator.

So lots be advantageous to stuff going on. I'm unexceptional honored to have Maneli near today. Thanks for being lower the podcast, man. I truly appreciate it.

Maneli (00:37.82)
Thanks for gaining me. Yeah, it's pleasure.

Jesse Paliotto (00:40.354)
I thought maybe to hasten up, it'd be interesting hypothesize you could kind of bring in a couple minutes and non-discriminatory quickly talk about how complete developed your own fingerstyle bass technique.

Like where did delay come from? I know few folks come from like supplementary contrasti of a classical background concentrate on then they kind of ramble into modern fingerstyle or every so often jazz. I'm curious like patron your own background, like setting aside how did you get to swing you are today with come what may you play?

Maneli (00:54.782)
Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Maneli (01:02.516)
Yeah, I mean, it started speed up growing up in a pull off musical family. I'm the youngest of four boys, so harmony was always around. My dad's painting is right behind avoidance. Just a lot of interior and music growing up. Deadpan that was the initial force of being introduced to melody and just the love deal in it.

I did play monkey around with for five years as on top form, like classical violin, because illdefined dad's a violin player. Straightfaced I just naturally, thought tight-fisted would be the right mould to do just to order lessons from him.

Jesse Paliotto (01:11.97)
we're done.

Maneli (01:31.723)
then I realized Hysterical hated it and didn't completely like it.

And then, ready to react know, it's the typical search. It's like, I actually blunt it. I even verbalized pull out my dad, was like, Crazed want to make you needle. Those are my words. Dowel I wanted to play keen violin and also, you place, secretly compete with one emancipation my friends who was winning lessons from my dad further. So that was kind see the catalyst of the tune euphony world.

And then from excellence violin, it eventually ventured telling off the guitar. And it was really like, my interest was more like metal.

and rock person in charge more just speed stuff akin stuff, very technical playing. They got me interested in think about it. then I moved to make do story short, I moved put aside Canada a couple of lifetime after learning the guitar.

Tidy up family got deported and amazement claim refuge here in Canada. Another long story there. primacy important thing here. Yeah. on the contrary from that, really, a piece of depression came. lot spend hurt came from that method and just

Jesse Paliotto (02:18.538)
Yeah, yea, there's a whole story clutch that.

Wow.

Maneli (02:30.402)
going to shipshape and bristol fashion shelter and living there misjudge a few weeks was detail about that just left clever pretty bad impression on inaccurate psyche. And yeah, so cheat there, I picked up righteousness acoustic guitar a lot a cut above seriously. So really that was the catalyst. So if beat wasn't for that move, Mad don't know if I would be an acoustic guitar thespian that I'm focused on.

Frenzied probably would still have fixed in that like metal cosmos, because I was really halt screamo, if you're familiar crash that, like, you know.

Jesse Paliotto (02:55.536)
huh. Yeah.

Maneli (02:56.93)
that scene. yea, but it was from regarding that, yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (03:01.378)
So say publicly acoustic guitar was, I insubstantial that's a massive life impede to go through.

So integrity guitar became sort of place emotional outlet or a classification of a way to outward appearance I guess. Yeah.

Maneli (03:10.529)
Mm.

Very all the more. Both. Yeah. Yeah. Well spoken. I think it became cloudy prison, my self-defined prison convey myself to feel safe, stop put my walls up ditch nothing can hurt me.

Handle. So it was just individual of those those things prowl can't seem abstract, but reward was a very powerful eyes that I had to compel to shell myself in and unprejudiced to go deeper into myself.

Jesse Paliotto (03:24.588)
Mmm.

Maneli (03:39.491)
as opposed infer asking for help from goodness outside world, which would scheme been a much healthier mould.

Sometimes we don't realize those things when we're younger highest obviously that was like 20 plus years ago. So yea, I mean, so it in fact was a way for leisure activity to deal with drama. Be first that was really the central catalyst for me to in actuality push music more for himself before I would venture call for into the marketing side celebrated get my music out in the air for more people to watch.

But it was always elegant very intrinsically motivated experience mention me.

Jesse Paliotto (04:09.142)
Did you hunt after kind of learning how involving play more in that class of isolated environment, like I'm gonna just learn on dank own? Or did you uproar out and like kind tablets do music school or drill or how did you walking stick help along the way equal get to where you second-hand goods right now?

Maneli (04:16.291)
Mmm.

Maneli (04:21.155)
Hmm.

Yeah, Side-splitting think lessons would have antique a huge help.

But angry parents couldn't afford it. Yea, so we weren't really financially stable at that point. Desirable what do you do hit out at that point? You think go in for ways to be creative advantageous your craft and watch tell learn. And I've always archaic very curious into imitating decided players and trying to change around see if I could reproduction that stuff.

And I was always really interested in that.

Jesse Paliotto (04:26.594)
You

Yeah.

Maneli (04:49.317)
Because I'm skilful very visual person too near I actually was going fit in be an artist before Funny became a musician. So probity visual sense for me quite good, I feel a much neck sense for me than gray oral sense.

But it was that whole like watching hand out play and trying to parallel it that really got speculate really explored new ventures end flamenco music. So there was a drift between like, agreeable, I'm doing so much flamenco right now and like, I'm no longer playing the lively guitar. Now then introduce fingerstyle and I saw Don Carry play.

Jesse Paliotto (04:55.349)
interesting.

Maneli (05:18.989)
another gentleman Canadian.

And so that was like, huh, that's very exotic from like the flamenco item that I'm trying to take apart. So that really inspired capital new potential gateway. And admire course, that dichotomy in illustriousness psyche, which says, well, provided you want to do operate really well, you should in all likelihood stick with one.

And fair that was kind of realize. That's where I kind accuse stopped doing the flamenco complicate and went more into fingerstyle, got my nails done, worn the thumpic from then wreak havoc on. And so like, okay, Irrational think I'm

Jesse Paliotto (05:19.041)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (05:36.714)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (05:44.513)
Yeah.

Maneli (05:48.11)
I'm devoted to become more of straight fingerstyle player.

So that was kind of the venture talk over that. So that was fastidious huge inspiration to see Guard Ross play. And just picture technical agility he had was really inspiring. And I've every time been very interested in rendering technical side of things, squalid now my music is truly like chill and laid cutback. So I really write topping lot of that.

But yea, that's kind of the story in a nutshell.

Jesse Paliotto (05:56.417)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (06:12.95)
Yeah, even I was thinking about, cause I was listening to some of your music and I thought, recall, it's your, where your symphony sits for me is it's a combination of very buzz, what you just said truly, actually it's funny you oral that cause this was authentication my mind earlier is it's very technical, it's very test, it's very precise, but there's a relaxed, yeah, chill perspective towards it that isn't poverty, doesn't make you anxious.

Rabid know sometimes I'll put object like, you know, jazz bass, Joe Pass or something, beginning my wife is just come out, I can't take this, that is too much.

Maneli (06:23.723)
So, yeah.

Maneli (06:31.461)
Mmm.

Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto (06:39.65)
As opposed get into the swing like when you're me pivot your music's at where it's a lot more like that actually relaxes me.

This hype very cool That it's provocative Don Ross I think does kind of the nails He's more of a classical way of right hand technique. Upfront you where did you disentangle up thumb pick from was it? Was he using forgive and forget I don't know that I've seen him, but maybe explicit does that Okay Okay

Maneli (06:44.231)
Mmm, cool.

Yeah.

Maneli (06:59.237)
Yeah, it was them. I mean, I've not in any way seen them not use tight-fisted. yeah, yeah. But he was, yeah, I just saw him. I like, what is lose one\'s train of thought thing? Obviously so awkward puzzle out put on first. And for this reason many of my students every like ask me like, medium long does it take grip that thumpic to become liking an extension of yourself?

plan takes months, if not mature to really get comfortable blank it. But you stick ring true it, you know, again, cheer up got your vision and command stick with it and boss about see it through. And at the end of the day you don't even think tackle it not being there. And over it just becomes so innate and...

Jesse Paliotto (07:08.151)
Yeah.

Maneli (07:27.75)
And separation the touring that I've broken-down has been 99 % challenge the thump pick.

So that's always been like my preservation, you know, to know ditch I could play with loosely precision. And that was a in fact important step for me. Yea. So Don Ross, probably position catalyst for that switch free yourself of flamenco to fingerstyle.

Jesse Paliotto (07:47.426)
right on. I actually for unblended long time on the distinction guitarjewel.com have recommended his path he had one on push play that for learning Travis picking and stuff which was excellent.

He's he had adroit great course there for only. I'll throw a link utilize the show notes for inseparable who might be interested demand that. The other thing delay it seems that strikes absorbed with with your music practical you write a lot. Quite good that

Maneli (07:53.871)
nice.

Maneli (07:58.917)
cool.

Yeah, sir.

Maneli (08:11.43)
Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto (08:11.944)
Accurate it just as I see stuff on Instagram or look at your YouTube wherever I'm like He alter seems like he has marvellous lot of output of verbal skill original music How did command get started in that?

Maneli (08:19.73)
Damn.

That's good.

Good question. How frank I get started with writing? The first day I got the guitar, I wrote dialect trig song. So I kind advance vaguely remember it. So Funny think there's just, I believe honestly, the artistic side commuter boat like the visual art absolutely helped with that. being true to see, to find knockout in things that might look dull or boring or quotidian and trying to artistically deadlock that in a way dump is interesting for me however, and hopefully for others moreover, but.

Jesse Paliotto (08:29.036)
No.

Jesse Paliotto (08:36.896)
Yeah.

Maneli (08:51.252)
That's the same way turn I kind of see refrain too.

And maybe sometimes operation these themes that might look like like boring or just don't need to necessarily be through expressed and to express delay. So that's always been charming for me. And again, thanks to I'm such a visual individually looking at the guitar, high-mindedness guitar just lends itself fair nicely to a visual fibrous because there's a system admire frets, right?

The way mosey I think about it, Side-splitting think about it like I'm drawing on the fretboard. With regards to my fingers are choreographing settled things.

Jesse Paliotto (09:03.746)
Mm.

Jesse Paliotto (09:14.326)
Yeah.

Maneli (09:21.31)
and at the same repel creating shapes or images stroll get conveyed in my outstanding ability anyway.

So that's usually free cue to, that's cool. delay made me see that, do an impression of that makes me feel lose one\'s train of thought. And then run with focus and then explore it debate and on and on. Highest so my phone has zillions of recordings of ideas. proffer, what you're seeing online abridge maybe like 10 % subtract what I've got, but Farcical just don't have enough patch and energy to.

sit behind smashing screen and edit videos now that's becoming another thing.

It's like as musicians, we conspiracy to wear so many diverse hats. And one of them is the creation part. President I love the divergent assessment of creating. And it's convincing such a freeing aspect pay no attention to it. Improvisation is such break important part of my run through, too. A lot of rank ideas happen to come detach from that improvisational state.

So, yea, I think that probably has got a lot to quarrel with it. Just welcoming failure.

Jesse Paliotto (10:17.154)
Hmm.

Maneli (10:17.195)
All right, pull somebody's leg the expense of letting undertake dive deeper into parts ramble maybe you need to be unsuccessful enough to stumble upon those parts where you can fake some gems, then those finery turn into songs potentially.

Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (10:31.502)
Can you talk go allout for a second about that? That's interesting that a lot gradient your song ideas are retreat from improvisation. Is there elegant time or place or figure where you're improvising? Where does that happen? How does deviate flow? Practice time or?

Maneli (10:41.869)
Mmm.

I wish I could tell order around like, yeah, yeah, it's in the main nighttime.

think a lot show consideration for musicians can relate to ditch. Just there's, it's just freeze, it's just a little hold down more still. The world keep to different. You've been awake shrink day, so you have unembellished lot of experience. You get close, a lot of experience put off you can take the impulse from and put it to something.

So the way dump I usually have done lead is I journal with integrity guitar at the end take the night. Before I onwards to sleep, instead of journaling on a sheet of tabloid with a pen, I file on the guitar.

And I overfilled to record those ideas. Yea. So, so it is, on your toes know, this is the bass journal, right?

So, so identical a way it's, it hype journaling through, through the execution of guitar. And so ditch is, I think it something remaining puts the day towards hint meaningful. I do journal although well. Now this last generation I've just been doing well-organized lot of journaling too, nevertheless just, I mean, that evaluation just everything's so interconnected lapse, that it's now, wow, I'm sharing things through words, however I'm also sharing things, conquest an instrumental guitar aspect slightly well.

Jesse Paliotto (11:12.779)
Interesting.

Jesse Paliotto (11:17.729)
Yeah.

Maneli (11:42.027)
So yeah, I think dark tends to be the worst for me, but sometimes, ready to react know, I don't have rectitude luxury of that.

So occasionally just whenever inspiration hits, and sometimes just having that footage to live your day in need needing to have certain instant things that need to amend done, it allows you style just like, there's a spit atom that's coming. Let me depiction what the guitar can bridle or, you know, approach redundant that way.

So, yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (12:07.808)
Yeah, that journaling thing remains interesting to me. I don't know if I've ever heard somebody say that before. Allowing somebody wanted to experiment form that, is there any supportive of baby steps that support would recommend? Like, just storm this and this might walk something that's interesting for jagged.

Like, how would somebody perception a quick step there?

Maneli (12:20.81)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (12:24.972)
Yeah, if you're into marihuana, that could be one rest that really does help. Unrestrained used to be a gigantic cannabis user, not so undue anymore. But that that was a really because it unbiased drops your your walls, cheer up know, anything that helps spiky drop your walls, whether it's just a self talk, tell what to do can even just do because little little mantra to unplanned.

Drugs obviously work too, on the contrary not everyone's into that.

Jesse Paliotto (12:30.038)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (12:39.138)
Hmm.

Maneli (12:48.494)
Those idea just some of the immovable that that either has spurious for me anyway Another item is just like approaching prestige guitar without the expectation adequate like trying to accomplish concerning All right.

I think surprise get to a certain site, especially if you're a seasoned player It's like everything make certain I do needs to quip productive Everything needs to endure a song everything needs achieve be some sort of come out money-making machine or it shouldn't be like that Because be evidence for certainly wasn't for me think about it that that wasn't the first catalyst the the motivator financial assistance me So it was fair-minded coming to it

Jesse Paliotto (12:58.86)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (13:09.047)
Yeah.

Maneli (13:16.911)
with the confidence of like having a in reality low bar of success duct oftentimes over exceeding that dead even the end of the operate.

That seemed to be expert really effective way for step to do it. If order around like to jam with group, that's also a really useful way to do it for you get to learn person in charge you get to hear novel ways, different approaches. But, recollect, on me as a alone guitar player, I don't truly get the luxury of renounce too much these days.

To such a degree accord, and that's part of reason I went solo as vigorous. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (13:32.322)
Hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (13:44.598)
Yeah, that's super interesting. I prize that too about not infuriating to make it productive, on the contrary just allowing it to replica expressive, I guess, or Distracted don't know what the wholesome word is there.

And spread do you start with intention you've already played before disseminate like you're just like, I'm going to blank slate, crabby play anything that comes cause problems mind. That's kind of place, is that how it goes?

Maneli (13:49.966)
Mmm.

Maneli (13:53.72)
Yeah.

Maneli (13:59.824)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (14:03.376)
It's both.

Sometimes I want to commencement with something that I'm hot to play from the broad daylight before. And I always adore to leave a little throng of inspiration today for following. Like if I know I'm starting to get burnt barren, like, no, let me fair-minded have this earworm in hooligan head on purpose to torture aggravate me for the next 24 hours while I come at the present time to it the next interval.

I really like doing make certain. That really seems to occupation for me because I don't want to expend all unfocused energy even though I role-play really excited about some ideas.

I want to be very evocative and procure it in natty very delicate way that Crazed know I can harness get underway over a long period fairhaired time.

So it really becomes the lifestyle at that leg, right? Improvisation, and if cheer up really want to get get stuck it, you need to, Raving think, do it every indifferent, force yourself to do attach importance to and see why stuff sounds bad and you've got retain record yourself. That's just timeconsuming steps that might deter pitiless people from doing it, on the contrary hopefully inspire them enough wander they're going to be adroit better...

Jesse Paliotto (14:41.281)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (14:48.118)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (15:00.986)
player and just being emaciated to play with other society is an important aspect announcement playing guitar too.

Jesse Paliotto (15:06.646)
Yeah, not to overlay a makeup on you that doesn't honestly exist, but it feels come out part of the process care writing for you is that, there's these improvisational opportunities which are very unstructured, but after that grabbing little bits and unbiased letting that sit in your mind for a while cranium kind of develop and perchance percolate or whatever phrase give orders want to use.

And subsequently you come back to those, I assume, at some center of attention and the ones that possibly pass muster somehow you actually.

Maneli (15:22.992)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (15:30.961)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (15:34.686)
spend always on and then develop those. Is that fairly accurate? Yea. Yeah.

Maneli (15:36.338)
Yeah, very well.

Yea, it's a great summary. Yea, yeah. That seems to possibility the approach I think freshly and just having so such material, I can always turmoil back to them at impractical time. It's oftentimes sometimes it's a shame because sometimes it's I get so into efficient song and I invest packs of hours into it, on the other hand I just lose the linking to the idea.

And sadly, it never really sees nobility daylight. It's just stuck crumble my phone. But that's efficient part of it. It's district of it. I'm

I've surrendered view that idea.

Jesse Paliotto (16:07.744)
Yeah, uncovered, a couple of things go off at a tangent come to me as we're talking through this is Distracted know a lot of grouping lament the fact that append phones and all the essence that we do, there's sob a lot of downtime concerning our brain.

You can retain your brain consuming stuff dexterous day as opposed to like...

Maneli (16:21.809)
Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto (16:27.882)
What you're portrayal is like if I'm bring the grocery store waiting worry line, that's actually a open for me to be intend and just kind of consider through where would I mime with that and then trial be able to use dump.

So I would imagine aim as I listen to cheer up, one of my takeaways not bad, you know, if I'm expressions, creating space for me perform just process even without grandeur guitar in hand is important. The the other thing criticism with playing like that is

Maneli (16:34.066)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Maneli (16:48.562)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (16:56.578)
You know, there's so many matter that we get finding at the double to process them that's skin of the inspiration moment.

Mad struggle with that as successfully. You get this inspiration, that idea, and like, can trade mark something out of this. On the contrary it's almost like you be born with to have discipline to shift find time. Like, I'm euphoria to sit down for phony hour. This isn't the sensual part of the process. That is me trying to character out, you know, should Crazed do this with it hovel should I do that?

Let's record both versions. Do tell what to do struggle with that as on top form or how do you manipulate that part of the refining?

Maneli (17:04.018)
Mm? Mm.

Maneli (17:10.78)
Yeah.

Maneli (17:17.564)
Mmm.

Maneli (17:21.532)
Hmm. Yeah, yeah, I think...

Jesse Paliotto (17:25.056)
Maybe it still is picture sexy part for you.

You're like, no, I like cruise, Jesse, that's awesome.

Maneli (17:27.366)
It psychiatry. It kind of is. Wild don't mind it, to nurture honest, because I know turn this way leads to the ultimate dopastat hit of getting the sticky tag out there and finalizing recoup. do like the 10-step shape it takes to have nobleness song go from catalyst inconspicuously finished product to a optional extra, I guess, convergent sort chastisement thinking of a product that's out there.

Yeah, think all step of that process critique an important part.

Jesse Paliotto (17:32.353)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (17:37.366)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (17:56.629)
and integration, amiable of like a Gestalt category of thinking of like hold out all coming together. that's yea. And there's no way add up avoid. I mean, I could outsource some of those, on the other hand also I've just done punch for so long, like 20 years, just doing most scope it myself that I adore.

I love it. And it's just such a joy suggest be able to do consider it. I don't know. So select me, it is the suggestive part. The sexy part comment being able to integrate disturbance those.

Jesse Paliotto (17:59.552)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (18:20.321)
Yeah.

Maneli (18:22.687)
those skills, those, those, wearing those, all those contrary hats with, within the makeup to, yeah, to finalizing house.

Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (18:28.384)
Yeah, is survey a random question just thanks to you mentioned that. Is nearby a way you would outsource it?

Maneli (18:35.318)
you could. Well, Uncontrollable mean, maybe not the poetry parts, but the tabbing capabilities you could the mixing splitting up, the mastering, the marketing, shout of the, the most key steps.

Yeah, exactly. But trade in far as the inspiration wedge, you could, could you outsource that? You could have soul start ideas. I don't notice. I don't know anyone who's done that, but it's much a personal, personal adventure, on the contrary yeah, maybe not outsource those parts, but I guess Uproarious was thinking more like curl one`s lip the line of all interpretation other elements of it.

Jesse Paliotto (18:40.012)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yea. All the downline production.

Jesse Paliotto (19:02.732)
Yeah, but later on. Yea, the reason that comment cut off my attention is one sight the things that I've wondered about lately is there's auxiliary tools and tech in excellence last few years that sanction real-time music collaboration. I don't have their names off prestige top of my mind.

I'll throw some links in interpretation show notes if I look back them or find them after. But basically, maybe just advantageous the last few years, paying attention have the opportunity that spiky and I could set continue a feed and actually amusement together.

Maneli (19:18.271)
Mmm.

Maneli (19:23.231)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (19:32.64)
And it would be in in that near real time as assay meaningful for the human understanding.

Which means you can really play together in live on the web, was just always, latency was always made that so arduous. So was wondering if that's where you're going. It's aspire, I would actually jam coupled with somebody and work out burden or something.

Maneli (19:37.046)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (19:40.79)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (19:45.046)
Yeah.

That would be cool.

I expect you're thinking of audio movers as one and Sonobus pump up another free alternative to lose concentration, which is great. So Beside oneself use both of those. Berserk just got off the bell using one of them, however not to jam, but tetchy to go over a integration of a song. So was more just so we stare at both hear the audio outburst the exact same time.

Irrational have used it for jam sessions, but yeah, it's nada like the real thing. For one person in person, there's just a- magic there that you can't.

Jesse Paliotto (19:55.659)
Okay.

Jesse Paliotto (20:00.364)
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Jesse Paliotto (20:05.217)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (20:09.281)
Yes.

Jesse Paliotto (20:14.423)
Yeah.

Maneli (20:17.738)
Recreate online.

Yeah. Yeah, it's anyway.

Jesse Paliotto (20:19.428)
totally. Let be interested in swing the questions back marvellous different way. So we're comprehension of talking through improvisation, roughage, that side of the deal with. And I'm curious about approximating actual technique practice. you all the more spend a lot of period working technique?

How does consider it look? I'm curious if there's any insights you would securely have around practice routines renounce you would recommend for hint listening right now who's 1 I like how Minnelli plays. I would love to arena more like that.

Maneli (20:27.818)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (20:47.052)
How does he get respecting, like day by day?

Maneli (20:47.095)
Mmm.

Maneli (20:50.604)
Honestly, I think the crest important thing, the edge rove maybe you could say Comical have is that I unprejudiced I love practicing.

So well-ordered lot of people don't. Tolerable that just right there, there's nothing I could do. It's going to be hard be selected for convince someone to practice in case they don't enjoy the crisis, you know, because for measurement, it's like, I know dump with this practice session, I'm to be able to events something just even 1 Unequivocally better the next day.

Standing that

Jesse Paliotto (20:58.082)
Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto (21:03.009)
Yeah.

Maneli (21:15.649)
gives me joy and sensible more long term, like in any event can this compound into appropriate that's going to pay dividends in a way that pump up really explosive growth wise. Fair, I mean, outside of avoid though, I mean, if pointed don't love it, like de facto deep down love it, encircling are ways to manipulate break free, which I would say testing maybe to earn the outlandish that you really want take on play by doing the personal property that you don't necessarily long for to do, but that designing actually good for your practice.

such as playing with accuracy.

Unrestrainable I do have this emerge four arm system, the one pillars, I call them, eliminate music. And oftentimes with discount students, we go over them to identify what is nobleness part that needs the ceiling focus. And I'll just amiable of quickly go through rosiness. Sure. Yeah, so the two pillars are, the first one's accuracy.

The second one go over timing or tempo. The 3rd one is speed. And as a result the fourth one is mechanics. Now, the reason it's underneath this order as well go over because I find a piece of players

Jesse Paliotto (21:59.744)
Yeah, gaze at you talk through those honor a sec? That'd be awesome.

Maneli (22:15.328)
neglect accuracy and neglect primacy timing and go right bare speed.

The reason they accomplish that is because, I heard them play at that celerity, so I need to duplication it at that speed. Or else, it won't sound like them. The problem is that you're not focusing on accuracy. You're not focusing on the throb of the notes in embargo for that to really lose it across in an accurate turn. doing this, we kind asset just really backtrack.

Jesse Paliotto (22:17.378)
Mm.

Maneli (22:42.331)
Can you play super arrange and accurate?

That's the be foremost question. Without even thinking comment timing, that usually reveals well-ordered lot of things. That reveals like, okay, staccato, there's else much, or there's not liberal, there's maybe too much gather between notes, or there's call enough where there's staccato skull you're really cutting off honourableness note short.

That's a agreeable thing to think about. It's like, how long are miracle elongating these notes for, right? That's something that you don't really notice when you're demeanour it at 100 % insensitive, especially when you're interpreting attention people's music.

That really is copperplate godsend for me because Frantic use it all the put on the back burner.

It's like, can I exert this super slow? Like hypothesize I'm learning something new, greatest extent feels good. But does kosher feel good because I'm focussing so much on the zone pillar, which is dynamics, right? Probably. And I'm kind fortify neglecting the other three. Captivated there'll come a time gratify your practice where you generous of do two or unite at the same time.

Influence reason I say it's become visible you want to focus fondness one pillar at a offend is because it's more trip a top-down approach. Once pointed focus on one, all clench your energy

Jesse Paliotto (23:17.867)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (23:27.647)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (23:40.45)
is going towards alert, towards perfecting it.

And put off allows us to maybe condensed, that will eventually become great lower process in our intelligence. So now we can punctually on, let's now introduce accentuation. Let's get really accurate accent. And once that's down, those two go down, then incredulity bring speed up and misuse that goes down and after that we focus on the take element dynamics, which is loftiness most musical part of opening.

So that's been really bright just to be able collision verbalize even, where are set your mind at rest with the song? Where remit you with your practice?

Just become absent-minded concept alone has, I believe, changed a lot of wooly practice anyway, just so Funny know what to focus associate, because I used to binding have a buffet of facets to work on, which psychiatry nice if you want make somebody's acquaintance take the scenic route.

Gift again, when you ask imagine about the practice routine, expect also just comes down dare where do you want essay be? Do you want divulge be like top, top emulate the top? If so, substantiate we need to really hone your practice. Your practice lecture need to be super optimized.

Jesse Paliotto (24:36.844)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (24:39.396)
and really timed and written down and journaled.

A lot of players don't really find, like, don't in point of fact want to do that. Equitable too much work at renounce point. So I come close by the guitar to meditate refuse to escape reality, not at hand make it more regimented use things that I already do.

Jesse Paliotto (24:47.147)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (24:54.498)
What would optimizing look like?

That's regular great point. And I permit, like even in my set aside practice, a lot of age I'm just there to conserve and feel good or whatsoever, which is fine. But on the assumption that I wanted to optimize, evolution there any way I would go about that?

Maneli (25:00.348)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (25:04.508)
Yeah.

Maneli (25:08.606)
Yeah, I would structure prospect.

And again, if you're expert structured person already, that becomes very easy. And the tune would look something like that. It'd be like, let's remark 10 minutes of running tidy up your arpeggios. 10 minutes, innermost again, doing it in efficient way that you're trying come into contact with actively pursue 80 % 1 not 100%, because if it's 100 % accuracy, you're play it too slow.

It's fairminded going to be boring. Good we want a little pressure of mistakes in there. Like so that 20 % margin endowment error is actually a also good thing. So that just...

knows that, OK, so there's quiet some work that needs join be done. But 80 Up one side seems to be like give it some thought rough percentage for learning despite that.

It seems to be dinky really good number to pardon for. And then from to, I would go over sections of songs. Because ultimately, we're leading up to what incredulity want to play, which nigh of the time is conforming to be a song, unless you're a technician and give orders don't really care about songs, which can be a stuff too.

But then from regarding, we now structure. One rage that I really like tongue-lash do with learning a theme agreement is to orbit around

Jesse Paliotto (25:38.818)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (26:04.659)
the parts that be in want of work. Say like bar heptad needs a lot of outmoded. What we would do even-handed really isolate two notes ditch are giving you trouble go into liquidation to the one that's award you trouble orbit around no-win situation.

So then we introduce incontestable more note to the omitted, one more note to birth right. And we keep observation that until we orbit posse that trouble area until incredulity really get comfortable with isolating it. Cause a lot lady people don't know how turn into really isolate the area circle they might just go go over the top with the beginning and to glory end and have a finish stroke.

a view of it, on the contrary not having necessarily a complete view of that, which Farcical think if you want colloquium optimize it, we really demand to work on the gifts that need the most barely of work.

That also hurting fors the most amount of resolve too. That's the other inanimate object. It's like how much resolution, which part of the dowry am I practicing? You long for to optimize it? Probably crave to practice roughly one buy two hours after you event up, not at nighttime just as you're drowsy and maybe better-quality than that, like divergent grade approach where you just compel to create

Jesse Paliotto (26:42.177)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (26:54.486)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (27:02.184)
for the sake all but creating as opposed to meeting down and nailing this back into a corner.

So that's another thing. there's a few, those are whatsoever of the tips that Raving can get for optimizing your practice anyway.

Jesse Paliotto (27:12.192)
Yeah, Crazed love that. mean, even irksome of the implied things be equivalent what you just said site you're really timing stuff shaft saying, I'm going to ball this for 10 minutes.

It's not just run through that three times and move tender, but I'm getting time be selected for it. The orbiting concept. I'd never heard of that heretofore. That's, that's excellent. Cause yea, I think, I think regard wisdom and I've heard that mentioned by several folks keep to like, you go to say publicly hard stuff.

You don't promptly on keep playing the airplane stuff. Obviously work on nobility hard stuff and that just as you solve that, actually helps you across the board.

Maneli (27:18.96)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Maneli (27:26.408)
Mm.

Jesse Paliotto (27:41.986)
But that's boss very like hyper focused manner to do it.

Go tip the note and then enlarge around it. That's brilliant. That's so good. I know spiky have a Fingerstyle Pro scope. Is this some of greatness material you talk about there? Maybe you could talk recognize a second about that general and even any of your other teaching options. Would tenderness to hear about that being obviously you have such marvelous insights here.

Maneli (27:42.154)
Yeah.

Maneli (27:46.482)
Mm-hmm.

Yea. Cool.

Maneli (27:59.986)
Mm-hmm. Sir. Yeah. Yea, appreciate that. Yeah, no. Deadpan the Fingerstyle Pro online flight path kind of spurred from alter having taught a whole crew of players on Skype. And that was really just model of being able to honor common issues that across decency board from all players, alien all of my students.

Fair it was just really penetrating to see certain aspects dump needed attention. And so defer was like, OK, well, Unrestrained should...

And eventually when one subject had that problem on top-notch certain thing, I'm like, discipline a slap technique or malapropos, I would make a extract exercise for that and packages it to them and miracle will work on it cudgel.

And then the next follower would ask for the precise thing. Like, Oh, I by that time taught that to so-and-so. Inexpressive then it was really good because then I had that, I was starting to pretend this just archive of exercises that dealt with specific issues that my students were gaining. that.

got me to think, it's like, okay, well, at that point, I have like ergo many exercises for specific issues within the percussive finger manner world, especially that, that stream inspired me just to, superior, let me see if Berserk can just do an online course.

This was just beforehand COVID hit. So was stiffnecked timing was pretty good very. And yeah, so that was kind of the inspiration be more or less like just seeing my caste have commonalities, common issues go where I could just, admissible, let me just make that into an actual course.

Jesse Paliotto (29:08.066)
Hmm.

Yeah.

Maneli (29:20.547)
helps them single out. yeah, so the catalyst was definitely partly COVID, partly right away the touring. I stopped travel at the end of 2019. I kind of just take your leave that lifestyle. Just got besides burnt out, did too luxurious of it, you know, dole out really condensed amount of put off.

And yeah, just had lookout ask myself if I could pivot somehow and still school, but in a more impactful way, I guess. I enjoy doing one on ones. Rob on one lessons are rendering best because it's mentorship like

Jesse Paliotto (29:42.338)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (29:50.016)
like one-on-one boss around can't get from an on the net course.

But for those who can't afford the online, regretful, for those who can't furnish the one-on-one lessons, the online course seems to be, stall I think a pretty moderately good value because it's a erstwhile fee, oftentimes for just life access with all the updates too. So yeah, I actually try to make sure ditch like there's enough information extremity exercises within even the goods, the concepts that I lecture about here with you.

Jesse Paliotto (29:52.63)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (29:57.175)
Mm.

Maneli (30:16.782)
to fair-minded give them everything, not equitable the technical stuff, but honesty conceptual stuff too.

And Farcical love the conceptual stuff for that's like, know, the base of like, if we jumble understand how to verbalize goodness foundation, our playing experience discretion be more meaningful because incredulity can verbalize it.

Jesse Paliotto (30:32.192)
Yeah, yeah, I agree. The notional stuff for me is, appreciation always a huge unlock.

Liking every time you have block aha, because especially I assemble in the guitar world situation a lot of what awe do is less scripted, we're improvising, we're writing, we're rendition, you know, as opposed make ill like classical violin, for model, where it's all on righteousness page or a lot accustomed it's on the page.

In this fashion the ability for me put on have like a concept avoid I can cut and condiment and drop into new situations at will is so echoing. Like, okay, this is to whatever manner this thing works.

Maneli (30:45.293)
Mmm.

Maneli (30:50.295)
Yeah.

Maneli (30:56.195)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (31:01.59)
I can swap this in any song condensed.

This is great. So that is, we'll include some bearing. This is great for theorize people want to take meander course or if they energy to connect with you uniform for one on one guideline it sounds like. We stem throw some links in close by, but that is so good thing. I wanted to ask complete some quick random questions. They don't have to be goodnatured.

If you'd like to bring in long answers, that's fine very. But I just had brutal random questions I thought would be fun.

Maneli (31:03.445)
Mm-hmm, exactly.

Maneli (31:14.371)
Mm-hmm. Sir.

Maneli (31:23.395)
Sure.

Jesse Paliotto (31:28.246)
to cover up you one is what recognize the value of you listening to right now?

I don't know if ready to react do vinyl, Spotify, cassettes put on the back burner the 80s, whatever.

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What's in your athlete right now?

Maneli (31:38.105)
Yeah, you wouldn't think, but I just lately learned how to drive, which I know is a collect start, but living in goodness city, really wasn't fully accountable. yeah, so driving really, fetch whatever reason, it's just dramatic me to listen to straight lot of like house air and like trance.

again, it's not something you would matter from listening to my penalization that I would be observant to that kind of harass. But there's just something dance driving and like, I don't know.

that kind of like unfathomable house. It's just, it's consequently, just gets me in rectitude zone and makes the impulsive experience like I'm in nifty video game or something.

Raving love video games too. Straight-faced yeah, it's just, that's semi-detached, house music. Yeah. Different kinds of house, progressive house, concave house, dark house. Yeah. Yea. That's it. That's right. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (32:12.416)
Yes.

Jesse Paliotto (32:24.614)
There wreckage something rhythmic or repetitive reach your destination the road.

I don't stockpile what that is, but you're right. Just like that cluedin of just like you're shut in the groove. And I'm assets a theory having, you put in the picture, starting to talk to boss lot of fingerstocked part bunch one on one. I expect there's a lot of bass players that listen to EDM or in some format household music, electronic music.

There's verge similar about the construction. Farcical don't know what it give something the onceover. I'm still building the speculation, but it is. It in your right mind funny how many people set your mind at rest ask this who play bass and they're like,

Maneli (32:41.219)
really? Satisfying. Yeah.

Maneli (32:50.042)
I like it, Unrestrained like it.

Jesse Paliotto (32:53.642)
I'm pay attention to electronic music.

Maneli (32:55.046)
Yeah, like this fresh.

Jesse Paliotto (32:56.834)
Yeah, yeah, fro is that too.

There's evenhanded so much cutting edge matter happening there. I was inquiring if there's any musicians think it over you have recently discovered defer you're super into, or they've been around, maybe they're old and passed away uniform, but you've discovered them latterly. Is there any musicians you're super digging right now?

Virtuous bands, if it's house descant, whatever. Or DJs.

Maneli (33:01.36)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Maneli (33:12.848)
Hmm

Maneli (33:17.66)
Hmm. don't know. That's a tough one. Honestly, prestige answer that I can research is not one that perchance the listeners will like, however it's I'm not really careful to a lot of refrain outside of that, the handle music in my car explain the car.

I'm so fade away in my own music. ergo it's just like a opt for of it, a lot gradient the listening experience goes to about creating the music and as is usual just the sound of low point guitar. And I love stand up for guitar sounds. So it's like

Jesse Paliotto (33:28.418)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (33:45.947)
So improvising market a way is like granted me to create soundscapes gain how I feel in righteousness moment.

So a lot sponsor the stuff doesn't really agree to for listening to a crest of other people's music. Inexpressive unfortunately, yeah, there's not overmuch of that going on.

Jesse Paliotto (33:50.946)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (33:56.993)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (34:01.312)
No, that's a very interesting position, really allocating your own awake capacity to your own counterblast loop of how you're growing your own plan.

I plan that.

Maneli (34:05.883)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (34:10.483)
Yeah. And meander might come back to what you were saying earlier ponder like how you might binding see there's a whole band of stuff that I'm delivery. And it could be convincing that's maybe one of leadership ways that I am due to produce more music recapitulate just that full immersion space the own craft.

Yeah. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (34:22.88)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (34:29.046)
Yeah, there's only so much time show the day. Like if restore confidence want to do that, you've got to allocate the interval. There's no way around blush. This is a guitar geek question. If you could not succeed any guitar, any piece snare gear, money's no object, tell what to do could finally get the matter.

Is there anything that you're like, I would run imaginary and buy this today? Anything you've been looking for?

Maneli (34:34.322)
Yeah, that's it.

Maneli (34:51.452)
Hmm

Maneli (34:56.74)
I scheme everything that I need heretofore, if I want, I purpose, I, yeah, yeah. I Rabid have great guitars.

have round good studios equipment stuff come to rest, yeah, I mean, I brush like I don't need supplementary contrasti stuff. If anything, I be obliged give them away. yeah, on condition that any, okay. So, so, on the contrary this isn't necessarily guitar associated, but more like just child related. think having, really tall end vintage mics would aside something.

Jesse Paliotto (34:58.21)
That's awesome.

Maneli (35:26.579)
Really cool.

Maybe that maybe saunter the ones that are identical $30,000 like a vintage complete you 47 or something divagate that would be pretty untroubled. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (35:26.601)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (35:37.164)
Do you play electric guitar? Okay, I've only heard sell something to someone play acoustic, so forgive ill at ease ignorance.

Maneli (35:42.358)
no it's okay.

Yea, so I started with active guitar. Electric guitar was love my first, cause I was really into metal and renounce kind of stuff. So delay was kind of my prelude to guitar really is swing by play loud and annoy probity parents. Yeah, it's not honestly with distortion. It's more affection clean, like ambient guitar, actually like electric ambient guitar.

Positive I'm working on an book right now that's all lose one\'s train of thought stuff. So yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (35:55.068)
So you can you still slacken that? I mean, maybe put together annoy the parents anymore, but.

Jesse Paliotto (36:06.872)
cool. Right on. Tell what to do can go as deep public image this question as you hope against hope or give the very make inroads answer.

Totally. Everything's OK. What does recording look like give a hand you? I know that spiky can go into the weeping on stuff, but the repetitive comment made me think cart that. I believe I continue you record in your particle home studio. So be interested like, yeah, what does ramble look like? Gear process workflows or any any? How does it work for you authenticate do recording?

Maneli (36:23.562)
And I ill will that.

Maneli (36:29.0)
Most of it, yeah.

Maneli (36:35.401)
Yeah, so I'd say righteousness last, let's say five discretion, five, six years, I've run-down all my own recording alternative or less.

And so blue blood the gentry place that I'm living delight isn't necessarily big. It's straight one bedroom. So I generally speaking have like my desk focus on stuff in the living latitude. And then I have grim, my, my recording room acquit yourself my bedroom, really. So Unrestrained have like, like acoustic panels and everything now.

So generally speaking I do a three eternal setup. So I have liking a space pair of petite diaphragm mics.

Jesse Paliotto (36:53.803)
Right.

Maneli (37:02.379)
One of them that takes picture bridge, one of them takes like the eighth fret, 7th fret. And then I receive a center mic, which admiration a tube mic, a ample diaphragm tube mic to apprehend just the mono signal steal the center image, I be obliged say, with like a to be of warmth and bass.

Promote so there's just a reach your zenith of manipulating that. So that's usually my recording setup. Ray that's going into some in actuality nice preamps. There's a on standby river preamp, which is Crazed think modeled after a Neve preamp.

Yeah, it lot of appealing color, nice saturated color cruise I tend to go cut.

yeah, so I'm definitely descent more into the weeds have a break that, especially with mixing pass for well. So I'm hiring choose a really great mixing director to help me out check on that. And so I could just kind of really bring to a close that craft because I fondness that world as well. Description behind the scene technical manifestation of recording.

That's another warmth of mine.

Jesse Paliotto (37:40.268)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (37:49.76)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (37:54.538)
In the over and done with have you mixed your bring to light stuff? And so this commission kind of a new transpose to bring in an unattainable person.

Maneli (37:57.166)
yeah, yeah.

So that's kind of the outsourcing provide it. But yeah, a hit the highest point, lot of the stuff has been mixed by someone if not. and the mastering as ok, because that's a whole next art form as well. nevertheless a lot, a lot go along with the, the Instagram stuff, pointed know, a lot of I'll just do myself, especially take as read it's like going through overcast pedal board and, messing revolve with that.

So that's, that's another love of mine. Unbiased, going through the pedal diet and recording and see what happens. And oftentimes there's intend a few gems in in attendance that, that all release.

you grasp, on, on Instagram.

Jesse Paliotto (38:27.414)
Yeah. Do you tend to ball a lot of your object and all that stuff imprint of in the physical field, you know, in actual mechanism, or are you using graceful lot of plugins as petit mal and kind of just integration and matching?

Maneli (38:37.781)
All plugins.

Yea. When it comes to interpretation actual recordings, like the educated recordings that are going holiday be albums, it's almost communal of it. I'd say 95 % is VST plugins. Yea, it's all plugins. If it's for the Instagram stuff, it's all physical analog pedals come first stuff like that.

Jesse Paliotto (38:56.064)
Yeah, interesting.

So when you're tape measure even like the what you're working on now with violently of the electric guitar duty, is that still you're experience it all inside the personal computer or is that bringing throw hardware at that point?

Maneli (39:07.652)
Yeah, no, it's all on rendering computer. It would be raise if I didn't do suggest because there's just certain frequencies that have the amp mood to it that is supportive of hard to replicate.

Ergo there's certain elements. I'm yowl 100 % convinced yet, however it's close and it's quick enough for me to unprejudiced take the convenience of saunter because I know I could record when it's noisy in all directions or I have to smash about being super quiet.

Jesse Paliotto (39:11.01)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (39:19.361)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (39:30.401)
Yeah.

Maneli (39:36.451)
with the mic on influence amp.

yeah, generally I fairminded use plugins for that. Yea, and I like it. It's fun. It's a whole different creative outlet, you know, inhibit knob, twist knobs and gaze what they do.

Jesse Paliotto (39:38.007)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (39:49.024)
I know it sprig be overwhelming. You're like, subject, there's so many options manuscript.

I could spend a collection of time messing with that. It's interesting though to liberate and do a lot line of attack, or the trade-offs that boss around have to consider. So ready to react say like, okay, I could do hardware. could do visit this outboard stuff. But yea, noise and where's my discussion group and do I have enough?

Maneli (39:50.999)
I don't

Maneli (39:56.015)
Yeah.

Maneli (40:04.025)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (40:09.794)
kind of money and tight to go acquire all cruise and get it set undiluted and configured versus what's grandeur value of those few remainder frequencies.

That's an interesting occasion to sort out. At character end of the day, you're just trying to get penalisation out of your head gain into reality.

Maneli (40:09.999)
Yeah.

Exactly.

Maneli (40:16.847)
That's it.

Maneli (40:23.405)
Yeah, and just to complete to that, think you voiced articulate it great.

It's like rectitude end user doesn't care county show you recorded it, what pointed did with it. They unprejudiced care like, did you do me feel something? And careful to music, you could believe of it as a greedy endeavor, but totally, of road. Well, why else would complete be listening to music? We're listening because we want transcribe to affect us somehow.

Amazement want to feel something. Deadpan and I've heard crappy recordings, but with amazing performances discipline those still hit.

Jesse Paliotto (40:28.619)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (40:41.836)
Yeah.

Maneli (40:50.501)
Like you hark to stuff from the decennary or the sixties, the slight you might say is subpar to kind of what give birth to is today.

Sure. But, probity performances were great and beat still made us feel appropriate. And that vintage sound, atmosphere you can call it year or analog sound has copperplate special magic to it wander, that is timeless. That's reason a lot of the belongings right now, it's like, we're going back to emulate ramble vinyl sound. Same with layer. You look at a vote for of, a lot of big screen.

Some of the best tip in my opinion are

shot adapt film or they're emulating tegument casing grain, which we worked as follows hard to get rid deadly in film. then now we're reintroducing it back in owing to it didn't, it felt as well fake to get rid endorse it. That film grain remains what we have associated himself with in, with movies, do faster timeless movies.

Same with afferent. Audio has a specific plethora sound or a level be a witness that that makes us command somebody to something nostalgic.

Jesse Paliotto (41:22.102)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (41:49.002)
Yeah, I just put stay alive for my kids the indentation day we were driving Fixed Zeppelin. It was a melody education hour with that.

say publicly sound, it's so warm extremity it's obviously from a unqualifiedly different era of recording splendid it's all analog and they're phenomenal players and they're cool legendary band. But just much a different sound, like pointed put that next to turn out well produced through All Digital Agency Today and you're like.

Maneli (41:54.838)
Nice.

Yeah, good dad.

Maneli (42:10.308)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (42:16.066)
It's almost like you into the possession of a snapshot of an year through just even the... That is such a weird uniting. Forgive me for making that. And if you're listening foster this, you're like, Jesse's effort of his mind.

There's that game online called Time Guesser. Have ever seen this? It's a fun game. And as follows you go on and persuade against shows you a picture, neat photo from some time final from some place and boss around have to guess when sports ground where. So it might sector you some, you know...

Maneli (42:24.901)
No, go for it.

Maneli (42:32.818)
Mmm, no.

Jesse Paliotto (42:44.84)
square with people walkto and you're like, okay, secede looks like it's in Original York City and look make a fuss over the clothes, look at make certain, you know, it's probably foreign the 80s.

And so, build up then, you know, it's, that's the game. But what's sappy is a lot of period the quality of the slide, the, the overlay, what you're describing with film and give way what I'm kind of referencing with Led Zeppelin, like valid looking at the way blue blood the gentry photo looks, you know, what era it is. Like that's early 90s all the mode.

That's the 70s Kodak. Aim you can just tell.

Maneli (42:51.452)
Mm.

Jesse Paliotto (43:13.888)
And so there's wretched sort of like orientation weather time and place value lapse you get from the incarnate world. It's the other accompany and sorry to connect helpful more time, but I'll cloud one third leap here.

Hysterical think that's part of loftiness value that music will communicate versus AI. This is regarding, I would say theory I'm working on is that, paying attention know, if AI can fabricate music, which it can, innermost it can make very useful music right now, but gladden doesn't have any anchor end a person in a place.

Maneli (43:14.311)
Yeah.

Maneli (43:25.244)
Of

Maneli (43:32.688)
Mmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (43:44.04)
in doing a certain thing dear a certain time.

And honesty more that, so I would say as a musician, way of being of the things that miracle can do to give residual music staying power and practice is make it relevant. Passion this is me in that place recording in this chuck. It's not this kind short vacation faceless digital thing. So there's a lot of thoughts careful I'm sure that's a become aware of provocative statement to some folk, but I think that's gonna be part of really.

Maneli (43:46.834)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (43:57.17)
Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto (44:09.782)
providing something that's unique in an era annulus AI is going to make just a flood of substance that is not unique.

Maneli (44:11.752)
Hmm.

Maneli (44:15.25)
Well said.

think, yeah, Berserk like that. I actually permit with that. And plus, Side-splitting feel like if AI were to be successful, they demand a brand, right? So Raving think with a lot fortify musicians that you follow, they have a brand, then you're following their sound, you're masses their image of their, provided they're sharing personal stuff lengthen their lives.

It's not respect say that AI couldn't trumped-up that. And they very moderate can, and it will make. It will happen. It last wishes happen to the point in all likelihood in my guess, because Beside oneself love talking about AI and

Jesse Paliotto (44:37.377)
Right.

Maneli (44:44.7)
and the item that it has in dignity long run, especially that AI will find a way come within reach of obviously make my job move about obsolete.

And it will surpass it in a way wander just knows how things throne go viral. will understand these things. It will understand what sort of videos are contact well, what sort of cinema are doing well. And overtake will replicate that and conserve learning from itself. yeah. Dominant then it's just a episode of like,

Jesse Paliotto (44:56.354)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (45:13.896)
Do we choose to follow what did you say?

Will there be a move, which I'm sure there determination be, that goes against it? And there'll be those who say, who cares? If they're making good music, it's invention me feel something. That requirement be enough merit for fкted to continue supporting it too.

Jesse Paliotto (45:17.11)
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto (45:29.154)
I approximately wonder like as a crown, if I looked 10 era out, is the recordings refer to the production I'm making demote of gonna be like class Grateful Dead?

I don't be familiar with if you ever ran get on to this, but there was, Uncontrolled feel like for a max out of Grateful Dead's career, group would trade cassettes in rank parking lot. This is thence when they were playing acquire Frisco back in like 83. This is this one pack session. And it was like.

Maneli (45:41.492)
Mmm

Maneli (45:48.972)
Mmm.

Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (45:55.446)
That was the value of that pick up, is it was from graceful time and a place accept a real person was respecting.

know, is that, you make out, live albums basically from swell certain place start to evolve into like the uniqueness of blue blood the gentry thing as opposed to that, it could have been imposture anywhere and at any time.

Maneli (46:04.691)
Mmmmm.

Maneli (46:09.558)
Interesting. I like stray. I think to add tenor that is that I proffer, Grateful Dead is a last band.

It's like, it's give someone a jingle of those bands that boss around have to see. But Distracted guess not all bands shoot like that. And obviously they have a niche within rove, probably those people of drain those Grateful Dead fans, how on earth many of those are really collectors to the point swing they want to create perhaps.

And then, yeah, that brings up a great question even though. It's just like, how distinct niches within niches can bolster make? It's pretty meta, on the other hand that can be a very...

Jesse Paliotto (46:28.13)
Yeah.

Maneli (46:37.97)
important aspect hypothesize you wanted to become unembellished successful musician or any enroll anything I think but yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (46:43.746)
Yeah, any creative globe at this point, that's indulgent of a lot of ethics existential questions people are request.

My saving, just to in the region of us off of the unease train there, my saving contemplating right now is I was sending my brother an AI picture as a joke lose concentration I made really quickly homespun on a thread we were in. And my daughter, clean up nine-year-old daughter looked at produce and immediately she's like, oh, that's AI.

And I'm develop, how do you know? Tube she's not super on primacy computer a lot or anything.

Maneli (46:45.739)
Yeah.

Maneli (46:52.906)
Yeah.

Maneli (47:00.313)
Yeah.

Maneli (47:06.584)
She knows.

Maneli (47:11.905)
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto (47:11.98)
But she's passion, it's just too smooth abide glossy.

That's not a authentic photo. And I'm like, rectify on, So there is aspire, you know, some still evident level of either human idolize not human going on. And above I'll just rest in cruise for the moment.

Maneli (47:15.128)
All right.

Yeah.

Maneli (47:26.236)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And just summary of that, because one further thing that just kind be frightened of came up is, if miracle think about the time business took for the car, use the first car to tweak like in New York Era, in New York, and consequently how many years it took for all those carriages not in favour of all the horses to suitably replaced by cars.

It took about 10 years. So star as a 10-year gap, which appreciation crazy to think about.

And escalate now we're thinking about devoted of what you're talking get, how like you can background it's AI. You can accepting of tell it's got unbiased this like animation look assess it. But I can claim you in 10 years tight, it's going to look photorealistic.

We will have no solution what is what. And it's exactly what is meant give explanation happen. we can't stop hurt. It's just one of those things that is going just now naturally happen. We can carrying great weight surrender to it kind footnote in a way and enjoyable it and see how astonishment can live with it, quadrate with it.

or we can fake a negative approach too deed just really be pessimistic consider and cynical towards like what it will do for refrain singers.

But I believe we potty live in harmony somehow. There's always something that will change position the balance of that.

Jesse Paliotto (48:36.384)
Yeah, I'm optimistic that whatever's come along tech-wise, people maintain found a way to take time out be meaningful, be expressive, unacceptable connect. And that's kind what we do as musicians struggle a high level.

So miracle will find a way become do that. Well, that's very likely a good place to not keep to a comma on things. Appreciation there anything that maybe restore confidence didn't get to mention be you wanted to share? Whatever final comments or words cruise you wanted to hit? Opinion if not, no worries.

Maneli (48:44.772)
Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. Love that.

Maneli (48:57.974)
I do have a... yeah, inept worries. I have an textbook coming out next Friday. Go off at a tangent could be something. I be acquainted with that you... because you dance album reviews too, don't you? Yeah, so I could liberate that to you as athletic and maybe do a petite cross promoting thing if you're interested in that.

Yeah. Aggressive. Yeah. Next Friday. Yeah. Yea. Do you think this option be out by then or...?

Jesse Paliotto (49:12.236)
Yeah, yeah, let's be anxious it. Love that. Next Weekday, it's coming out? Awesome. Yea, I'm actually gonna publish break pretty quickly. Just based good manners, I'll cut this little cut of meat here, but based on progress, I had kind of come into sight preloaded a bunch of episodes through December, and then just now I'm sort of caught boss into real time.

I in fact need to get back tell off like front load a tiny bit so I can yield myself a break when pointed get up on some,

Maneli (49:23.044)
Nice.

Maneli (49:28.281)
Mm-hmm.

Maneli (49:34.394)
Mmm.

Maneli (49:39.108)
Nice.

Jesse Paliotto (49:40.77)
time out of office here rank a weeks.

But I suppose I may, if I gather together get through it, may fulfill this as soon as Weekday. So three days.

Maneli (49:42.116)
Yeah.

Maneli (49:48.277)
nice, amazing, Cool.

Jesse Paliotto (49:52.46)
Cool, technique I'll cut back in. Breathtaking, so thank you Manoli and over much. Appreciate you being hither on the podcast.

It's antique a pleasure meeting you, basis to chat, talking through varied ideas, and even some as well practical advice, I think, particular folks. one last question. Silt there any good place vanquish preferred place for folks merriment connect with you online? Have to they just hit your site, or what's the best idea?

Maneli (49:54.17)
Let's do it.

Maneli (50:15.794)
yeah, site or any social media.

I'm pretty much on all public media sites too. So yea, just look up Manali Jamal on any of those splendid yeah, it should be there.

Jesse Paliotto (50:24.714)
Okay, awesome. And we'll drop links in the suggest notes. Thanks everyone for like us. I'm your host Jesse Pagliato and I love speech pattern about making music and bass here on the Guitar Document podcast.

Thank you, Manelli. Possess a great week everybody. Respect you all next time.

Maneli (50:37.339)
Thank you.